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Cristian68
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Pe site-ul Pre War Car exista o dezbatere desprea aceasta masina ,care dupa unii ar fi apartinut Casei Regala a Romaniei,poate ii putem ajuta.
Anexez articolul si fotografia:
With Pebble Beach and many others in August at the horizon it's Concours month. (check our calender). People who frequent those lawns of glamour may recognise the photo sent to us by Russian car journalist Ivan Barentsev. We have literally no idea where to start looking based on this extreme 3 headlight boulevard Glitzer. The looks are very much Figoni like, but insiders will agree that the Czech Carrosserie Sodomka did jobs parallel to this one. Let's wait and see what your knowledgeable memory produces... we are looking forward to see your e-mails. Contact Us.
Update IX by N. Moritz: "The same picture is found on a Russian webpage with a claim that it was a Delahaye 165 that used to belong to the King of Romania. This design of front fenders was patented by Figoni. I don't remember the patent number, but I have seen it myself. Thus it is unlikely that any established coachbuilder could copy it. I also doubt that only two Delahaye 165 were built by Figoni and Falaschi, as often claimed. I've seen historical photos of four different cars (convertibles)."
Update VIII by Karel Jicinsky who is curator of the Aero Car Club Prague archive and co-writer of the new book "Automobily Aero s karoseriemi Sodomka": "I can confirm that the the depicted car is not Sodomka´s work. He made only one coupé in "French style".
Update VII by Thierry Benoit: "The Shah's Bugatti has the EXACT same fenders, same chrome decor on fenders, hood an door. Its body is by Van Vooren, so this one must be too. On Jay Leno's Garage site (he seems to have bought the Bugatti) it says that the design is by F&F. The mystery car must be by F&F or Van Vooren."
Update VI by Timo Laitinen: "The same picture appears in Lev Shugurovs excellent book: "Automobiles in Moscow, 100 years 1902- 2001" with the information: "When the Rumanian king Mihail I descended from the throne his dark red Delahaye 165 with the bodywork of Figoni & Falaschi was taken to Moscow. .. It is said that the car exists today equipped with the engine of a ZIL 130 truck"
Update V: Hans Veenenbos believes most repondents so far got it wrong... "considering that the car is left hand drive (unless the photo was printed the wrong way around). This could suggest a German or a Czech chassis, definitely not a Delahaye, Bentley, or Bugatti and most likely also not French coachwork."
Update IV: Marc Fellman is of the opinion that the mystery car does seem to bear a close resemblence to Figoni's two roadster bodies on Delahaye typo 165 chassis and "incidently the Shah's Bugatti was I believe bodied by Van Vooren."
Update III: Josef Kubista agrees it looks like Sodomka, but doesn't think it was made by him, but there's also a very close looking Bugatti.
Update II by David Watts: “I might offer Franay as a possible coachbuilder as well. The fenders are very similar to their 1947 Bentley.”
Update I from Ted Wilmarth: “The bodystyle bares a striking resemblance to the Figoni and Falaschi body built for the Delahaye 165, even though there were only two made and they never made a coupe.”
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Misu de Cluj
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Asta iarasi e o vanatoare de fantome.
Asa ceva nu gasesti si chiar daca gasesti e la pret astronomic.
Cai verzi pe pereti.
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NU TOATE MASINILE VECHI SUNT RABLE! 
UN POPOR CARE ISI INGROAPA TRECUTUL, NU VA AVEA VIITOR!
SUNT MANDRU DE RABLELE MELE !!! 
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Cristian68
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Masina nu exista in Ro,in articolul de mai sus se spune ca masina a fost luata de armata rusa din Romania .
Dar intrebarea este daca aceasta masina a apartinut Regelui Mihai,dupa parerea mea nu a fost masina lui,dar poate prietenii nostri de pe forum au alte informatii.
In mod cert,conform articolului de mai sus ,masina a fost ,,luata" din Romania.
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marian_6963
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Stiu ca a fost publicata o carte referitor la masinile detinute de rege ...
Uite aici este o lista intreaga a masinilor detinute, daca pe acolo gasesti ce te intereseaza ...
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Imi plac masinile, dar viata mea si tot ce e bun in viata asta scurta se reduce la cei doi copii ai mei! Nimic nu se compara cu ei!
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marian_6963
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Nu modific postul de mai sus, dar ... citind articolul citat si facand comparatie cu lista la care se face referinta in carte, gasim cam asa:
Cristian68 a scris:
Update IX by N. Moritz: "The same picture is found on a Russian webpage with a claim that it was a Delahaye 165 that used to belong to the King of Romania. This design of front fenders was patented by Figoni. |
iar pe site-ul mentionat se spune:
| Delahaye Tip 135 (1939), Delahaye Tip 165 Sport (1939), |
Si la tipul 165 care se spune ca a fost in garajul regal se gasesc pe net niste poze mai moderne a unor autovehicule de acel tip:
eu spun ca seamana, iar nenea cu blogul vorbind despre carte nu cred ca a vorbit despre castraveti:
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Imi plac masinile, dar viata mea si tot ce e bun in viata asta scurta se reduce la cei doi copii ai mei! Nimic nu se compara cu ei!
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motanualb
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F interesanta masina , pare sa aiba elemente de la mai multe masini, tunning? o.o
Grila pare a fi de la ceva americana?
(artwork on wheels)
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Cristian68
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Am gasit informatii complete despre masina:
Au fost fabricate 4 sasiuri fiecare echipate cu caroserii mai mult sau mai putin diferite.
Doua se afla in Statele Unite,celelalte doua sunt ,,disparute" in fosta Uniune Sovietica.
In continuare articolul despre masina Regelui Mihai.
Delahaye 165 (chassis 60742) had a fixed top body (faux cabriolet) and a different design of the radiator shell. The car was used by M. Monciny, chief of the design office, before being sold to Prince Michael of Romania. This car had the most powerful V12 engine ever installed in a Delahaye 165, probably similar to the original racing engine. The car was seized by the USSR and became personal transport of Lavrentiy Beria, the notorious chief of the secret police. Beria was overthrown and executed in the early 1950's. The whereabouts of the car are unknown.
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